>> the faa's budget is immense. it's contractors, consultants, it's matter of sitting down and prioritizing and saying what do we need now? what can we put off until later? i mean their budget is huge and to do this on the backs of the controllers on the front line is so incredibly wrong, it feels like you are a character in a remake of "one flew over the cuckoo's nest" sometimes. >> bill: interesting. i'm thinking back to ronald reagan, and here again the air traffic controllers are being beat up in this. >> yeah we're more profile when you see things like that. and it will make the biggest impact. sequestration was supposed to be so bad that there's no way we will go down that road. well, we're here. so let's stop playing political games with the national air space system. >> bill: is there a safety issue, jim? >> i would say that as this goes on, there are absolutely safety concerns in place. we are, again, looking at the closures of those 149 towers come june that will add to the work load of an already stressed